The speech code you mentioned (at Berkeley?) is all over the place in corporate America. I was at one very large corporation where a long list of disfavored words with possible alternatives came out maybe 2 years ago.
Has the auto industry dealt with the use in brakes of master and slave cylinders?
I'm with you. There's too much pussyfooting - see, there's another one - around with language today that achieves no good purpose. As Tom Lehrer said, " When correctly viewed, everything is lewd"
Maybe too much Upstairs/Downstairs and other British period dramas started having me bump on the word because of the class thing. I don't think I started actively not using it. I don't police my words like that, but I would feel a slight wince when hearing it. That's my own sensitivity/sensibility from just living. Just naturally I probably would have started using it less myself because of that, but now that I know someone made a list and is telling me I shouldn't, the childish part of me wants to start getting comfortable with the wince. To co-sign John(a little), the word has never really had a strong association to the negativity of slavery with me and my family is from Haiti(not the good parts).
As one who became self-conscience at work about using master/slave to identify high kW power sources, the use of the terms on US plantations was not my only reservation. Indeed, slavery might precede human civilization and recorded history. I have also chosen to refrain from terms that normalize human class systems. "Master bedroom" is one such term. Admittedly, when I purchased my home as a single male, I was proud to be the master of the household. But is this inclusive? Can my missus be a master? Should we be sharing a bedroom? If I precede her in death, will she need to move out of the master bedroom? Of course not. That's silly. Just as silly as continuing to use the term.
There are instances when the use of master isn't inappropriate. "Mastering a trade" is one.
Also, I'm not sure how equivalent any of this is to homelessness. I defer to those experiencing homelessness and to those doing the most to help to decide how to describe the situation. Telling them to leave the vocabulary alone and just fix homelessness, which is what they are trying to do, doesn't seem helpful.
Your future missus will be the mistress of the house. In English and French, this is what the terms originally meant. While there was serfdom, there was no slavery in either country in medieval or modern times. (What happened in their colonies is another matter.)
I agree 99.99% with your argument. As an electrical engineer, I use the terms master and slave in regards to controllers and what they control.
My 0.01% disagreement is with the use of the word 'slave'. I do not see 'slave' as connoting a sense that it was the fault of the person denied their rights, it was the fault of those who wielded power to their advantage. 'Slave' accurately denotes the legal status of a person considered property and as slavery has been practiced by humans since prehistory, it is not a racial slur. Using the word 'enslaved', as some argue, is cumbersome and in my opinion senseless as one who is 'enslaved' is a 'slave', there is no difference.
Those wringing their hands over our word use should concern themselves with woke conservatives who are legislating their woke policies as law, such as with DeSantis and the Republican legislature banning books and teaching kids about the realities that black people faced in the United States. Conservatives go further down the 'word police' rabbit hole in banning the discussion altogether.
DeSantis is not "banning "books, and that is just propaganda.
In Florida we believe there are books INAPPROPRIATE for children and they should not be in public schools. If a parent wants a child to be exposed to those lewd books, they can easily buy them. Also, do you really think "queer theory" is part of black history? The APA curriculum that's contrary to Florida law did.
He is banning books. Making it illegal to teach certain subjects bans those books and puts teachers in a bind that coerces them to remove books from classrooms:
Try to understand this simple concept: removing books from school shelves is not "banning" them. A "banned' book is unavailable anywhere.
It should be illegal to teach very young children about sex and all children that being white means you're an oppressor and being black means you're oppressed. What utter rot.
States' rights involve a state being governed the way its residents prefer. Here we don't want mandatory experimental gene therapies or masking, woke ideologies and child mutilation. As I understand it, most black people are not for woke propaganda, including sexualization of children and child mutilation
I could not be any more grateful that DeSantis , who won reelection with 60% of the vote, is our governor. Glad you aren't in our state.
Try to understand this simple concept, making something illegal to teach requires removing those books and that is banning.
Conservatives are useless reactionaries who can't deal with reality and so they write woke laws dictating what will be taught in schools from on high rather than allowing locals to determine it. Conservatives need to shut the fuck up and educate themselves before they start banning subjects.
For example, regarding your conservative woke ignorance about 'gene therapies' and 'child mutilation', the schools were not promoting 'gene therapies' nor 'mutilating children'. You don't understand much, as with most conservatives, so let me help you with some reality:
That conservatives believe that males be masculine and straight and females be feminine and straight is the big part of the problem. Reality is that there is a spectrum and your conservative view creates issues with those that don't fit in.
For those interested in the “master bedroom” controversy from a befuddled architect’s perspective, check out this blog post I wrote on the subject: https://www.cabarchitects.ca/blog/m-bedroom
I find it irritating that everyone is now held to account that they don't agree with certain sensibilities as in use of the word 'master' and 'slave'. I suppose that such arguments about word usage are rather normal and word usage does change over time due to certain sensibilities at certain times, this is but one of those times.
And if you don't mind some large quoting, here is most of their paragraph on the "head of college" role -- which term replaced "Master". (Notice the repeated "he or she" making clear that an editor was not ready to use singular "they".)
"The head of college (HOC) is the chief administrative officer and the presiding faculty presence in each residential college. He or she is responsible for the physical well-being and safety of students in the college as well as for fostering and shaping the social, cultural, and educational life and character of the college. During the year, he or she hosts special meals, study breaks, and College Teas—intimate gatherings where students have the opportunity to engage with renowned guests from the academy, government, or popular culture."
The speech code you mentioned (at Berkeley?) is all over the place in corporate America. I was at one very large corporation where a long list of disfavored words with possible alternatives came out maybe 2 years ago.
Has the auto industry dealt with the use in brakes of master and slave cylinders?
Agreed that this is ridiculous. Masters were masters whee there were no slaves at all. Also I have no problem with master and slave cylinders.
Will they now get rid of master's degrees?
Let's just call them Bachelor's Degrees
My Georgia grandmother would send me letters addressed to Master…. I am 75.
I'm with you. There's too much pussyfooting - see, there's another one - around with language today that achieves no good purpose. As Tom Lehrer said, " When correctly viewed, everything is lewd"
Sparrow perhaps not but when I saw this in the wild once, I definitely thought dinosaur 😁
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileated_woodpecker
In my experience, the elect like “comrade” just fine as an honorific.
I’m a Brit and in my school, the male pupils were addressed as Master. Girls were addressed as Miss, if I remember rightly.
Maybe too much Upstairs/Downstairs and other British period dramas started having me bump on the word because of the class thing. I don't think I started actively not using it. I don't police my words like that, but I would feel a slight wince when hearing it. That's my own sensitivity/sensibility from just living. Just naturally I probably would have started using it less myself because of that, but now that I know someone made a list and is telling me I shouldn't, the childish part of me wants to start getting comfortable with the wince. To co-sign John(a little), the word has never really had a strong association to the negativity of slavery with me and my family is from Haiti(not the good parts).
Disagree about 'fuck' and 'shit.' People employ those to sound hip, and that only works by holding on to the naughty connotations.
As one who became self-conscience at work about using master/slave to identify high kW power sources, the use of the terms on US plantations was not my only reservation. Indeed, slavery might precede human civilization and recorded history. I have also chosen to refrain from terms that normalize human class systems. "Master bedroom" is one such term. Admittedly, when I purchased my home as a single male, I was proud to be the master of the household. But is this inclusive? Can my missus be a master? Should we be sharing a bedroom? If I precede her in death, will she need to move out of the master bedroom? Of course not. That's silly. Just as silly as continuing to use the term.
There are instances when the use of master isn't inappropriate. "Mastering a trade" is one.
Also, I'm not sure how equivalent any of this is to homelessness. I defer to those experiencing homelessness and to those doing the most to help to decide how to describe the situation. Telling them to leave the vocabulary alone and just fix homelessness, which is what they are trying to do, doesn't seem helpful.
Your future missus will be the mistress of the house. In English and French, this is what the terms originally meant. While there was serfdom, there was no slavery in either country in medieval or modern times. (What happened in their colonies is another matter.)
I agree 99.99% with your argument. As an electrical engineer, I use the terms master and slave in regards to controllers and what they control.
My 0.01% disagreement is with the use of the word 'slave'. I do not see 'slave' as connoting a sense that it was the fault of the person denied their rights, it was the fault of those who wielded power to their advantage. 'Slave' accurately denotes the legal status of a person considered property and as slavery has been practiced by humans since prehistory, it is not a racial slur. Using the word 'enslaved', as some argue, is cumbersome and in my opinion senseless as one who is 'enslaved' is a 'slave', there is no difference.
Those wringing their hands over our word use should concern themselves with woke conservatives who are legislating their woke policies as law, such as with DeSantis and the Republican legislature banning books and teaching kids about the realities that black people faced in the United States. Conservatives go further down the 'word police' rabbit hole in banning the discussion altogether.
DeSantis is not "banning "books, and that is just propaganda.
In Florida we believe there are books INAPPROPRIATE for children and they should not be in public schools. If a parent wants a child to be exposed to those lewd books, they can easily buy them. Also, do you really think "queer theory" is part of black history? The APA curriculum that's contrary to Florida law did.
Please don't just parrot absurdities.
He is banning books. Making it illegal to teach certain subjects bans those books and puts teachers in a bind that coerces them to remove books from classrooms:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ron-desantis-book-bans-florida-b2270116.html
Florida is a backward, woke conservative state that uses the legislature to promote woke white propaganda.
Try to understand this simple concept: removing books from school shelves is not "banning" them. A "banned' book is unavailable anywhere.
It should be illegal to teach very young children about sex and all children that being white means you're an oppressor and being black means you're oppressed. What utter rot.
States' rights involve a state being governed the way its residents prefer. Here we don't want mandatory experimental gene therapies or masking, woke ideologies and child mutilation. As I understand it, most black people are not for woke propaganda, including sexualization of children and child mutilation
I could not be any more grateful that DeSantis , who won reelection with 60% of the vote, is our governor. Glad you aren't in our state.
Try to understand this simple concept, making something illegal to teach requires removing those books and that is banning.
Conservatives are useless reactionaries who can't deal with reality and so they write woke laws dictating what will be taught in schools from on high rather than allowing locals to determine it. Conservatives need to shut the fuck up and educate themselves before they start banning subjects.
For example, regarding your conservative woke ignorance about 'gene therapies' and 'child mutilation', the schools were not promoting 'gene therapies' nor 'mutilating children'. You don't understand much, as with most conservatives, so let me help you with some reality:
- https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/sex-determining-region-y-mammals
- https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/news/more-women-than-expected-are-genetically-men/
That conservatives believe that males be masculine and straight and females be feminine and straight is the big part of the problem. Reality is that there is a spectrum and your conservative view creates issues with those that don't fit in.
For those interested in the “master bedroom” controversy from a befuddled architect’s perspective, check out this blog post I wrote on the subject: https://www.cabarchitects.ca/blog/m-bedroom
I find it irritating that everyone is now held to account that they don't agree with certain sensibilities as in use of the word 'master' and 'slave'. I suppose that such arguments about word usage are rather normal and word usage does change over time due to certain sensibilities at certain times, this is but one of those times.
I know you are aware of this. “The curious incident of the dog in the nighttime…” Silver Blaze (Sherlock Holmes)-A.Conan Doyle
Don
Yale would probably want to say that the Residential Colleges are more than simply dorms. Here is their website for the Colleges system: https://yalecollege.yale.edu/residential-colleges
And if you don't mind some large quoting, here is most of their paragraph on the "head of college" role -- which term replaced "Master". (Notice the repeated "he or she" making clear that an editor was not ready to use singular "they".)
"The head of college (HOC) is the chief administrative officer and the presiding faculty presence in each residential college. He or she is responsible for the physical well-being and safety of students in the college as well as for fostering and shaping the social, cultural, and educational life and character of the college. During the year, he or she hosts special meals, study breaks, and College Teas—intimate gatherings where students have the opportunity to engage with renowned guests from the academy, government, or popular culture."